I came across a reference to “Nougat” in relation to Oxygene recently, and sure enough you can pre-order Oxygene in a .NET, Java and “Nougat” bundle.
I couldn’t find any other mention of “Nougat” on the RemObjects/Oxygene site though, so I’m still somewhat in the dark as to what “Nougat” actually is. I have my suspicions (colour me excited! π ) but does anyone have any concrete information on what it is or might be ?
Also, yesterday I downloaded Lazarus 1.0 for Win64 and OS X. I had a quick peek at the Win64 build and was impressed. Last night I spent a little time with the OS X build and continued to be impressed.
I had hoped to get an initial write-up of my impressions done last night but time ran away from me, so that will now come later today.
Interesting times…
What’s the other major platform given that they have .net and Java covered? My guess would be Javascript.
I think your guess would be wrong. π
But thanks for playing. π
I was quite excited by the prospect of a major platform. And now you hint at Cocoa. If that’s the major platform then I’m disappointed.
Well, any disappointment is really your own fault. π
Who seriously would have expected JavaScript to be targeted by a development tool that previously had .NET and Java on it’s target list, especially given that other people already have ObjectPascal -> JavaScript “covered” ? I honestly thought you were joking. π
Other people already have .net and Java covered. Plenty of room for competitive offerings.
For me, Javascript has no interest at all. But it’s clearly a platform with a monstrous penetration and install base. Unlike Cocoa.
Anyway, if they are targetting Cocoa presumably that’s done through Mono. Will be interesting to see how slick the integration is.
If Oxygene is to have a Cocoa variant then it simply wouldn’t make sense to be based on Mono as they have already had that for a long time already.
That would be “Oxygene for .NET, .NET and Java”, no ? π
I should cocoa!
LOLs – I like what you did there. Nice touch. π
Oxygene βNougatβ is unveiled now http://www.remobjects.com/oxygene/nougat.aspx
Nougat is a new project to bring the Oxygene to a third and completely new development platform, one of the most exciting and fastest growing platforms of today: Mac and iOS. We’re not quite ready to say more much about this project just yet, but suffice to say we are very excited about βNougatβ.
You really do not know? It’s kinda obvious what Nougat stands for, isn’t it? What other platform is waiting for Oxygene to cover π
As I would have thought should have been obvious from my response to some of the comments so far, I do know. π
I’m sorry, it was a bit uncharacteristic for you not to write all you know or to keep secrets, so for a moment I really believed you didn’t know. My bad.
There’s a difference between “keeping secrets” and “teasing”. π
I know, I just didn’t expect / recognise it, given your previous posts… π
Hi Deltics/Pastics/Oxydics … here are some links with additional details related to Prism XE3 / Oxygene 5.2 … anyway without any mention about “Nougat” … Anyhow, the veil will drop today π
http://www.embarcadero.com/products/prism/whats-new
http://wiki.oxygenelanguage.com/en/Read_Me:Embarcadero_Prism
AFAIK marc hinted in NG about some “Cocoa” native features … IMHO, since JavaScript is the new ASM I will definitely enjoy/expect a JS target instead … definitely interesting times
Yes Stonez, but those links are about Prism – a.k.a Oxygene for .NET. “Nougat” is … something .. ‘other’..
Waiting for the veil to drop… π
RemObjects Oxygene “Nougat” unveiled … Native Oxygene for Mac and iOS http://www.remobjects.com/oxygene/nougat.aspx
Oxygene “Nougat” is a new project to bring the Oxygene to a third and completely new development platform, one of the most exciting and fastest growing platforms of today: Mac and iOS. We’re not quite ready to say more much about this project just yet, but suffice to say we are very excited about “Nougat”.
Cocoa is effectively confirmed
https://forums.embarcadero.com/thread.jspa?threadID=76417&tstart=0#489944
H’m.
I was skeptical about Prism/Oxygene. Why would anyone want to use Pascal on dotNet instead of Csharp, I thought?
But those new IDE features look really cool. And from the bits of sample code it appears we’re not in Kansas anymore. They seem to have modernized the language, too.
Makes the flagship product look even more backward. I can understand the old compiler needing to support decades of old code, but the old Delphi 7 IDE was changed, so why can that not get more programming aids like this?
And iirc, Barry Kelly had an idea for a non-code-breaking garbage collector. That would have made XE3 a bit more interesting.
Pity.
Chrome-cum-Oxygene-cum-Prism always did have some very nice language features, right from the start. RemObjects crossed the Kansas state line some time ago. π
Assuming that Nougat is indeed Cocoa for both OSX and iOS, I’m all over that $499 bundle.
There is some (although little) information available from RemObjects about Nougat:
http://www.remobjects.com/oxygene/nougat.aspx
As teasered here: http://www.remobjects.com/oxygene/nougat.aspx
Nougat will target iOS and Mac OS X natively, as .NET (and Mono) and Java are equally targeted natively with the Prism and Cooper flavours.
http://www.remobjects.com/oxygene/nougat enjoy π
Have you looked at: http://www.remobjects.com/oxygene/nougat.aspx yet?
Also: the “Coming Soon: Cocoa, Cocoa Touch and the Objective-C Runtime” section of http://www.remobjects.com/oxygene/frameworks.aspx .